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dieselwelder
06-08-2012, 10:58 AM
I in the market to buy a a new machine to put on my truck. I'm looking at either a 200d pipeliner or the 300d. I'm wondering if anyone has used these machines and what are the pros and cons of each. I'm leaning towards the 200d pipeliner because this machine will be on the truck... If I need more amps than what the 200 can put out I have a Miller BB 400... Now I don't want to turn this into a Lincoln vs Miller thread.... I use what gets the job done for a particular application.... I use the Miller on my water pipe projects because it simply out performs the Lincolns when I use over 500ft of lead....which I do a lot... But after the job I'm on is over next year I'm gonna hit the road and see if I can get into oil and gas pipelines...and for that kind of welding the Lincolns out perform the Millers...in my opinion... Thanks for your .input.

ntorma
06-08-2012, 12:28 PM
I would get the 300D with the perkins. My Dad has one with over 6300 hours on it and no problems. Otherwise i would get a SAE-300. The best part about the perkins is that you can go to a caterpillar dealer and get most of the engine parts from them. Cat owns perkins and uses them in their skid loaders. In fact out 226 cat skid has the same exact glow plugs as the 300D perkins.

Charlie
06-08-2012, 01:13 PM
Both are nice downhill & LH machines. Currently running a 2002 Classic 300 (Perkins) absolutely trouble free for 5200 hrs.

However for 3/32 & 1/8 rod on small/thin pipe I gaurantee a dependable old SA 200 gas with perfectly adjusted governor/RPM's will appeal to you more

dieselwelder
06-09-2012, 07:32 AM
Thanks for the input.... I'm gonna looking into the 300d more..

Ajraservices
06-09-2012, 09:43 AM
I'll make the suggestion that you try a couple of friends machines before you buy. If your used to that miller, I would look at the pro 300 or the 350.
You will find more people with opinions about welding machines than have probably actually ran them.
I have personally ran SAF 300, SA 200, 300d, miller pro300, and the pipe pro 304.
I have seen all kinds of machines on the pipeline. Even air cooled trailblazers. Though it can be tricky getting on a job with an air cooled machine, it does happen. I have even seen old hobarts on the line.
If you are running transmission lines the 200 will be more than ample. Just remember its all dc. Even you power tools will need to be.

jbomb
06-09-2012, 07:31 PM
Vantage 400. Just upgraded from a 300D and all I can say is wow.

dieselwelder
06-09-2012, 08:15 PM
Yea.... Thought about the pipepro from Miller... Miller has always be very good to me.... Ohhhh decisions...decisions........

freefalling
06-09-2012, 08:33 PM
the sae 300 is supposed to weld really good. it has two continous controls like the sae 400 but you dont have to run your machine long ways. i think there brochure says by having two continous controls its like having a knob that is the same as rolling your rack

Rig Hand
06-10-2012, 10:52 AM
SA-200 gets my vote. There simple, reliable, and cheap. There is a reason why everyone uses them. It often takes a few years but most folks figure it out. As far as AC power goes if you can't do it with a torch and a grinder then its out of your scope of work anyways.

Pipelining is hard on everything I'd hate to see a brand new pipe pro get tossed off a tack rig (well, I might grin). Just my 2 cents.

Ajraservices
06-10-2012, 11:01 AM
SA-200 gets my vote. There simple, reliable, and cheap. There is a reason why everyone uses them. It often takes a few years but most folks figure it out. As far as AC power goes if you can't do it with a torch and a grinder then its out of your scope of work anyways.

Pipelining is hard on everything I'd hate to see a brand new pipe pro get tossed off a tack rig (well, I might grin). Just my 2 cents.

Wouldn't matter if it was a Lincoln or miller or what. If some Shithead dumped my machine, I would be pissed, regardless if it cost 2500 or $13,000.

Rig Hand
06-10-2012, 11:10 AM
Wouldn't matter if it was a Lincoln or miller or what. If some Shithead dumped my machine, I would be pissed, regardless if it cost 2500 or $13,000.

True, and it should be replaced, but I was kind of hinting that you make the same money with a $2,500 machine and a $13K. Brand or model doesn't really matter your only getting 16 bucks. When its all said and done you can re-sell a 2,500 machine for 2,500.

freefalling
06-10-2012, 04:54 PM
actually hold that thought on the sae 300. i visited that AWS website and did some searchin to see if anyone mentioned that new machine..


look what i found

http://www.aws.org/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?tid=30470

:eek:

dieselwelder
06-10-2012, 07:11 PM
I've been reading a lot of people saying their 300 welder like shit for the first 500 hrs..... I'm seriously thinking of going with Miller again or instead find me a old SA 200 red face or short hood and rebuild it..... You never hear one bad :Dword about those old SA's!!

jbomb
06-12-2012, 08:37 PM
I had the chance to burn some 7018 with the cat turbo 350 pipepro and it was so smooth with good arc drive. Any thoughts on these machines and how do they compare to a vantage? I have yet to see a guy with one yet up here.

Ajraservices
06-12-2012, 09:32 PM
I had the chance to burn some 7018 with the cat turbo 350 pipepro and it was so smooth with good arc drive. Any thoughts on these machines and how do they compare to a vantage? I have yet to see a guy with one yet up here.

I don't think you can compare those two machines. The vantage seems to make you work harder welding pipe from what little I have ran one. They can be good machines for all around work.

The pipe pro was designed for pipe welding, much like the sa 200, and etc. run a vantage on some pipe and you'll understand what mean.

Kansaswelder76
06-12-2012, 09:42 PM
I had a 1998 300d with the continental diesal best machine I ever had until my rig got stolen