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Old 02-14-2016, 12:13 AM
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Lol thank you, but I'm young myself, so i def have a long way to go. Thank you for helping the young guys, with over 2000 posts that you have shared there is plenty of info to keep me reading the archives for quite some time. I just got lucky being in middle illinois, where the building trades are very strong and have great relationships with our contractors. We are i think one of 9 remaining straightline steamfitter locals left in the nation (no plumbers, just us), so our apprenticeship is full on welding, rigging, and layout work. I got in over 10 years ago, when work was booming, and have been blessed with being able to work a bunch of industrial and fab work. I ran work for a few years, then lately realized that my hair was starting to recede and i no longer loved my job. Drug up and now have been kinda bouncing around contractors for heavy fab work and ss stuff, which is where i want to be, with my hood on. Going to get my rig together, and God willing break out pipelining this spring. The ua has been nothing but awesome for me, but i know that's not always the case for everyone. I'm always for the working class, union or not, but when you go union you take an oath to work a certain way, and that is something i take very seriously. Which is why i probably came off a little pissy earlier.

We should do another round brother lol

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Old 02-14-2016, 12:16 AM
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Lol hell yeah man, see you and i aren't that different after all. Another round! I can tell I'm gonna really like this forum, and i got a shirt ton to learn here
Yeah man this forum is a riot, I take everything with a grain of salt.

I have gotten lots of good advice from here, and lots that didn't jive with my goals and direction. At the end of the day, just give it hell and you'll be alright. I'm working with a good group of guys now, and it is amazing compared to what I was working with before.
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Old 02-14-2016, 01:32 AM
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Yeah man this forum is a riot, I take everything with a grain of salt.

I have gotten lots of good advice from here, and lots that didn't jive with my goals and direction. At the end of the day, just give it hell and you'll be alright. I'm working with a good group of guys now, and it is amazing compared to what I was working with before.
Lol this forum is pretty cool. As far as whether or not you should go to the ua vs boilermakers is going to be a very localized and personal decision. As i said, around here boilermakers travel, and fitters work more localized, because the work that the ua covers is more than the boilermakers. We both do about the exact same work (as far as skills are concerned),but around here boilermakers bounce from powerhouse to powerhouse where fitters do powerhouse, chemical plants, and heating and cooling work. If you like the heavy code welding, boilermakers aren't a bad path at all, in fact i almost went there myself. If you want to do completely different stuff throughout your career, the ua covers everything from plumbing to refrigeration to pipeline to chemical plant to powerhouse to med gas to sprinkler to gas line to just about anything outside the first flange on a boiler. Not every local is created equal, just like not every worker is equal. Sometimes, politics and family overrides ability, but locals like that are few and far between in my personal experience, and that is the same irregardless of what trade you are in. Unions are far from perfect, but in my humble ignorant opinion give the average working class person (females are welcome and often excel) the best chance in making a fair and honest wage with benefits that cover you for a lifetime. The ua takes training and personal growth very seriously, and the learning you can achieve can and should take place over your entire career. In my personal experience, as long as you expend honest effort, fellow ua members will go out of their way to help you achieve your goals, from finding specific types of work to learning new skills. I'm definitely biased, because I'm in what i honestly believe one of the best local unions in the history of the world, but i think of other ua members chime in with their personal experiences i will sound a lot less dumb lol. Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do, and i hope one day we work together and perhaps even enjoy a drink together
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Old 02-14-2016, 06:20 AM
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you guys forrestderp and kyle353 are cool, I only wish I was young again!!! to do it all over again. Keep at it........put that welding rig together, cause..in a couple years a rebound is coming, for both sides of the fence.
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:27 AM
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you guys forrestderp and kyle353 are cool, I only wish I was young again!!! to do it all over again. Keep at it........put that welding rig together, cause..in a couple years a rebound is coming, for both sides of the fence.
Not sure if that was a good move for then to tell the truth or not, (BUT BY MY OPINION TRUTH IS ALWAYS BETTER)!
At least my ass is covered then in that instance. At least the people got fair warning with plenty of time in advance to make decisions on work satying there and riding out the storm or moving on sooner.
Not sure what to make of it but I've been in several situations in which "sorry we're closing the doors" and it sucks, they were always the best jobs I'd had, we;d done all the work for a lot of the Atlantic City Casino's some bridges and stores, sad I guess I'm suppose to understand it but maybe i just refuse to.
I''d like to see their books to find out what the profit is and just why this decision was made, (maybe someone looking to become more of a millionaire?
But as in church one day and something we should all come to grips with when is enough enough, with the way I live and my house and lack of a real shop I struggle every day, no one seems to acre except for the girlfriend who stands by faithfully and presses on forward but I know I could use more and I don[t need to be filthy rich but at 56 I sure wish my life was more comfortable then it is but what is is with is and my beliefs I'd guess I'd better say it's what's Gods plan is for me, GOOD LUCK TO OUT THERE I just personally find it unfair. Oh by the way UNION OR NOT! Prayers to all involved.
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Old 02-14-2016, 06:30 PM
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Not sure if that was a good move for then to tell the truth or not, (BUT BY MY OPINION TRUTH IS ALWAYS BETTER)!
At least my ass is covered then in that instance. At least the people got fair warning with plenty of time in advance to make decisions on work satying there and riding out the storm or moving on sooner.
Not sure what to make of it but I've been in several situations in which "sorry we're closing the doors" and it sucks, they were always the best jobs I'd had, we;d done all the work for a lot of the Atlantic City Casino's some bridges and stores, sad I guess I'm suppose to understand it but maybe i just refuse to.
I''d like to see their books to find out what the profit is and just why this decision was made, (maybe someone looking to become more of a millionaire?
But as in church one day and something we should all come to grips with when is enough enough, with the way I live and my house and lack of a real shop I struggle every day, no one seems to acre except for the girlfriend who stands by faithfully and presses on forward but I know I could use more and I don[t need to be filthy rich but at 56 I sure wish my life was more comfortable then it is but what is is with is and my beliefs I'd guess I'd better say it's what's Gods plan is for me, GOOD LUCK TO OUT THERE I just personally find it unfair. Oh by the way UNION OR NOT! Prayers to all involved.
I'm hoping I didn't bust your bubble. I was referring to oil and gas work from the drilling rig (chasing, fixun and wellhead & P&A's), to completions and well-site hook ups some with compressor hook-ups, which include pipeline, and pipeline laterals for water, gas, and oil which I have done my whole damn life since 29. In times like these us rig-welders are fucked. Downstream, refineries, power houses, distribution work remains steady...so should your line of work. You wouldn't believe the companies going under right now across the board....it's damn ugly...top tier companies in the past. I teach all of my guys that I try to help out, if you can join the UNION.....do it.JMHO

BTW, at 56 I am a shit disturber so fuck you, drive, drive, drive, let sally drive, tried to pick a fight with Kyle and Forrest after a L. of whiskey.....ha ha. Didn't happen, both them mother fuckers are class acts....Just like Mike!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:31 PM
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Lol now don't start rumors about me! Hahahaha
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Old 02-15-2016, 06:42 AM
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I'm hoping I didn't bust your bubble. I was referring to oil and gas work from the drilling rig (chasing, fixun and wellhead & P&A's), to completions and well-site hook ups some with compressor hook-ups, which include pipeline, and pipeline laterals for water, gas, and oil which I have done my whole damn life since 29. In times like these us rig-welders are fucked. Downstream, refineries, power houses, distribution work remains steady...so should your line of work. You wouldn't believe the companies going under right now across the board....it's damn ugly...top tier companies in the past. I teach all of my guys that I try to help out, if you can join the UNION.....do it.JMHO

BTW, at 56 I am a shit disturber so fuck you, drive, drive, drive, let sally drive, tried to pick a fight with Kyle and Forrest after a L. of whiskey.....ha ha. Didn't happen, both them mother fuckers are class acts....Just like Mike!!!!!!!!!
No you didn't bust my bubble, I was just referring from past experiences and what happen to those guys gals in the video.
Sorry I never hit much of any of that work mostly structural and repairs work
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:56 PM
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No you didn't bust my bubble, I was just referring from past experiences and what happen to those guys gals in the video.
Sorry I never hit much of any of that work mostly structural and repairs work
boy, where in the hell was my mind when I posted that........keep at it.
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Would like to find some trash to steam plants, was up in New York at one doing crane rail sucks bfi waste management forget who Connecticut wasn't to far off, kind of a cool place on the river.
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